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EJS wrote: If you start with a zero map it will make changes because we calibrate the
PC3 zero settings to the injector pulse that the stock injector is putting
out on the bike that it was designed for. We would have no idea if its going
to add or take fuel away with a zero map on your setup. I would try to the
put the PC3 on the bike where you are getting it tuned or trailer the bike
there.
This would mean DJ would have to hack the complete map out of every bike to know what to calibrate to. Sounds like cobblers to me...
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Lorcan wrote:Sounds like cobblers to me...
me too.
my pc5 zero map was too rich to run, BUT i had just installed 370cc injectors so i'd expect it to be. -31 made it okay.
considering my highest adjustment number is +17 it probably would've been fine with 310's or even 270's.
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Are those numbers a result of the Autotune? And if so what are the target a/fs?
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oops meant +7 not 17 but the Autotune is plugging in some pretty crazy inconsistent numbers I'm guessing due to the latency of the o2 sensor and how quickly the boost comes in? I eventually turned it off and have been happier with the map I made.
I have a bunch of 13.2 and 13.5 off boost and mostly 12.5 on.
I just bought a dynojet mobile dyno sight unseen that probably needs work so I'll add that to the winter projects list.
I also have a few tps sensors from newer bikes and am going to make an adapter to piggyback one onto the original to give the pc its own signal.
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Piney Power wrote: I also have a few tps sensors from newer bikes and am going to make an adapter to piggyback one onto the original to give the pc its own signal.
I almost suggested that but thought it was more trouble than it was worth. Go for it though. Which model DJ did you get?
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um would you believe I don't know? :shock: I'll either have a really cool shop tool at a rediculously low price or I'll have the world's most expensive door stop. :rofl:
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It doesn't really matter. It's only a comparative tool anyway. As long as you can make comparisons between runs, and preferably save them on a computer somehow, you are good to go :D
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The seller said the output harness is intact and uses a serial connector. I'll have to figure out what it is and if the data sensors are all there.
I downloaded winpep7 just because.
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I sent a picture to my new friend at dynojet :lol: who said:

That is a 150. It can be upgraded to all the latest software and could even accept the Eddy Current retarder to make it have load control if you wanted.
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Cool :cool:
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Lorcan wrote:It only has 12 going into the unit itself, it has some others that just go through the plugs that fit into the ZX12 wiring loom, but we don't need those, they are only there to save you hacking into the loom.

My PCIIIusb for ZX12R have 13 wires .
Today i spoke with another PCIII seller (Zx12R) he have also 13 wires and i think thats NOT works
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1sam1 wrote:i will boost 1,5bar =2,5 bar to begin with.

i wonder too if you have 352cc injectors and have 0 in the map it will give 352cc right.

if you put -10 it will be less fuel than 352cc right.

but if you put 20 where do the extra fuel come from? have it somthing to do with that you use only 80% of the max injector cc?

one more :lol:

if the yellow is the groundside of the injectors,what is then the black/white? its going in and out to the pc3, shud the both sides be on groun?
What do you meaning with this ??
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Just a heads up. Our part number 937-411 (PCIII) or 12-004 (PCV) for the BMW 4 cylinder models have the same injector AND TPS connector already on them. I have not checked the polarity as I do not have a wiring harness for the GPZ yet. Hope this helps.
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Würstchens-Turbo 810 wrote:
1sam1 wrote:i will boost 1,5bar =2,5 bar to begin with.

i wonder too if you have 352cc injectors and have 0 in the map it will give 352cc right.

if you put -10 it will be less fuel than 352cc right.

but if you put 20 where do the extra fuel come from? have it somthing to do with that you use only 80% of the max injector cc?

one more :lol:

if the yellow is the groundside of the injectors,what is then the black/white? its going in and out to the pc3, shud the both sides be on groun?
What do you meaning with this ??
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