no powecommander no good tuning.

[1sam1]

no powecommander no good tuning.

yes right.

i think if you dont use the powecommander with bigger injectors,you only throw avay the money.

if you have pwercommander and make changes to you bike,then you get the hp you are looking for.

i know many do changes somthing like airfilter or boost power,but if you want the power out,mount a powercommander and get it tuned!

thats the thru work of get the power from the bike.

[Würstchens-Turbo 810]

yep

[Charlie @ Evergreen]

Hate to disagree but I do. The PC is maybe the best way to get it tuned but there are hundreds of these bikes if not over a 1000 of them out there running factory setups and probably hundreds running upgrades with us having built over 50 billet upgrades that flow more then the Stage 2s. My personal bike is built 810/valves, porting, 1100s, Plenum upgrade, boost pipe & BOV, adjustable FPR (43 lbs) with so much more running 15 lbs all day on 300cc injectors. Fires perfect every time and tune is right on. 8000k miles on the engine since built with no issues and no one has passed me on it. So there is more than one way to tune this engine. Even NOSFERATU runs the same 300cc injectors on OEM setup. Yes PC is the best way but not the only way.